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	<title>Comments on: Games People and Web People</title>
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		<title>By: axcho</title>
		<link>http://tedhoward.com/index.php/2008/12/19/games-people-and-web-people/comment-page-1/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>axcho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 20:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, just thought I'd share this comic by Mr. Shen, in case you hadn't seen it. The fact that this comic resonates with a lot of the Flash developers on MochiAds does suggest that the tension there is real. ;) Click my name for the link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, just thought I&#8217;d share this comic by Mr. Shen, in case you hadn&#8217;t seen it. The fact that this comic resonates with a lot of the Flash developers on MochiAds does suggest that the tension there is real. <img src='http://tedhoward.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> Click my name for the link.</p>
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		<title>By: axcho</title>
		<link>http://tedhoward.com/index.php/2008/12/19/games-people-and-web-people/comment-page-1/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>axcho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 20:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. I find distribution innovation interesting, though I'm not sure how much I'd believe Lasky in that article when he says that it's more important than content... My focus has been much more on the content side, at least.

But anyway. Thanks! I'll do my best to keep those posts coming! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. I find distribution innovation interesting, though I&#8217;m not sure how much I&#8217;d believe Lasky in that article when he says that it&#8217;s more important than content&#8230; My focus has been much more on the content side, at least.</p>
<p>But anyway. Thanks! I&#8217;ll do my best to keep those posts coming! <img src='http://tedhoward.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: TedHoward</title>
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		<dc:creator>TedHoward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree completely that Flash games is another convergence space between games and funware. I still see most of Flash games as casual games that are delivered on the web. Those making the games come more from the traditional of games than from Web 2.0 or funware. From that perspective, it looks to me like the innovation is more about distribution and value chain of how than game published more than content innovation (http://www.gamecareerguide.com/industry_news/21851/lasky_innovate_in_distribution_.php). As you point out, with the revenue source being so dependent on traffic it shares that in common with funware or 'social games.'

It's an interesting space to watch.
I've been enjoying you blog. Keep up the good posts, and I'll try to do the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree completely that Flash games is another convergence space between games and funware. I still see most of Flash games as casual games that are delivered on the web. Those making the games come more from the traditional of games than from Web 2.0 or funware. From that perspective, it looks to me like the innovation is more about distribution and value chain of how than game published more than content innovation (http://www.gamecareerguide.com/industry_news/21851/lasky_innovate_in_distribution_.php). As you point out, with the revenue source being so dependent on traffic it shares that in common with funware or &#8217;social games.&#8217;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an interesting space to watch.<br />
I&#8217;ve been enjoying you blog. Keep up the good posts, and I&#8217;ll try to do the same.</p>
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		<title>By: axcho</title>
		<link>http://tedhoward.com/index.php/2008/12/19/games-people-and-web-people/comment-page-1/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>axcho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 07:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting. My familiarity is strongest in the Flash games space, and this seems to be a place where the tension between games and "funware" is particularly pronounced. Developers certainly strive for good gameplay, art, meaning, innovation, but at the same time revenue comes almost exclusively from traffic, and the well-known games are just as likely to be "simple, stupid, and widely used" as they are to be the kind of high quality experiences that players and critics like to praise. The combination of distribution through portals and the more messy viral spread is an interesting situation.

I'd imagine that Flash games would be the place to keep an eye on if you want to watch where convergence might be going.

Cheers and good luck on your new blog! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting. My familiarity is strongest in the Flash games space, and this seems to be a place where the tension between games and &#8220;funware&#8221; is particularly pronounced. Developers certainly strive for good gameplay, art, meaning, innovation, but at the same time revenue comes almost exclusively from traffic, and the well-known games are just as likely to be &#8220;simple, stupid, and widely used&#8221; as they are to be the kind of high quality experiences that players and critics like to praise. The combination of distribution through portals and the more messy viral spread is an interesting situation.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d imagine that Flash games would be the place to keep an eye on if you want to watch where convergence might be going.</p>
<p>Cheers and good luck on your new blog! <img src='http://tedhoward.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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